The Enneagram is like a running river that’s always adding. And every new person that comes into the tradition of the Enneagram adds something extra. And you should never be contained by one thought or one interpretation of the Enneagram. You can have a school, you can have a lineage, but you have to expand and see the different interpretations.
Interview with Dr Khaled ElSherbini
Dr Khaled ElSherbini is the keynote speaker at the IEA Egypt 2024 conference and is the founder of The Consciousness Academy, the leading academy in the Middle East for consciousness, integral, and psycho-spiritual studies.
(Read interviews and articles related to the IEA Egypt Conference in January 2024)
Khaled ElSherbini relates to type 5 and is a scientist and he launched the first Egyptian satellite and designed the first Egyptian wind turbine, a two megawatt turbine.
He holds a Ph.D. in Engineering, an MSc in Environmental Sciences.
But he also had an inner spiritual calling that led him to the Enneagram.
Dr. Khaled ElSherbini is an Integral and Transpersonal Psychologist, an Enneagram professional, an ICF PCC accredited coach, a Spiral Dynamics Integral professional and an MSc in Transpersonal Psychology.
In this conversation with Flemming Cristensen they talk about:
✔ The Enneagram as a tool for consciousness and awakening.
✔ Khaled ElSherbini´s wish for the Enneagram in terms of research.
✔ How Enneagram work is about diversity and inclusion.
✔ How the IEA conference in Egypt will present at opportunity to experience the different ways the Enneagram symbol or model can be presented – also the Egyptian flavour.
✔ The heart of the Enneagram and about being human.
Dr Khaled ElSherbini quotes from Enneagram Insights podcast
The Enneagram is not an engineering equation – you have to listen and expand
Dr Khaled ElSherbini:
“The Enneagram is like a running river that’s always adding.
And every new person that comes into the tradition of the Enneagram adds something extra.
And you should never be contained by one thought or one interpretation of the Enneagram. You can have a school, you can have a lineage, but you have to expand and see the different interpretations.
So from the very first beginning of our foundational courses, I ask people to listen to different teachers, to be exposed to different teachings from different heritages.
And that would be my encouragement to the beginners, to realize that this is not an engineering equation that you will understand, solve some questions, and now you understand the human being. It doesn’t work that way.
So listen, expand.”
Future wish: The heart of humanity
Flemming Christensen: What is your wish for the future students of the Enneagram?
Dr Khaled ElSherbini:
“One of my advanced teachings I call the heart of the Enneagram. And that’s when we touch the heart of the type, the heart of the model itself. It’s about, again, being human. And I have, let’s say, a double wish here.
The wish for the people who are in the Enneagram world is to really touch the heart of the Enneagram so that the Enneagram can move from heart to heart, not from mouth to mouth, not from head to head, but really from heart to heart.
And the second wish is that it moves from so many hearts to so many hearts, that it becomes at the heart of humanity itself. That it becomes like a core teaching, even for little children, even for teenagers, even for people getting married, even for friends. It becomes at the heart of humanity.
It touches the heart of humanity itself.”
Links:
Khaled ElSherbini and the Consciousness Academy
IEA Egypt Conference 2024: Remember What you are.